Army Recruiter Suspended for Threatening High School Student with Jail Time, Sparks Bipartisan Call for Investigation A story involving an Army recruiter in Texas last week has led to a bipartisan call for an investigation. The recruiter from the Greenspoint Recruiting Station in Houston was suspended after a recording of his threats aired on a local TV station. The recruiter, Sgt. Glenn Marquette, warned eighteen-year-old Irving Gonzalez that he would be sent to jail if he decided to go to college instead of joining the military, even though Gonzalez had signed a non-binding contract that left him free to change his mind before basic training. We play the recording of their conversation, and we speak with two of the teenage Army recruits involved. We also question a spokesman for the US Military Recruiting Command and speak with a Texas Congressman who is calling for an investigation. [includes rush transcript]
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@DVA3952, agreed, the US can certainly sustain longer than the UK in a protracted global fight. I am just going on what I saw of UK forces in Iraq. Their training, equipment and commitment were excellent. Glad they were on our side. I think they would hold up well against a pretty good cross section of enemies. Likewise, the U.S. Army is better now than ever in its history. Give them a doable mission and it’s as good as done.
@Nanjing03 but in the long run they decided that it wasn’t worth the effort and let us go. British Army is good, not denouncing that but in terms of numbers, technology, and training I think the US Army is better. But the Brits sure have good snipers.
@DVA3952, [Cont.] Further, the Brits trounced us pretty bad on the high seas in both wars. The Revolution was won because European nations allied against GB. The War of 1812 was actually a draw. The Brits fared better in the Great Lakes and Chesapeake Campaigns than America, enough so that the U.S. Army was later restructured with the “Volunteers” providing a “third tier” in the Militia-Volunteers-Regular Army force structure. We did’t do too badly, but we did’t trounce them either.
@DVA3952, this is not “back in the day” anymore. Besides, during the Revolution, the Brits ran our forces all over New England, New York and Pennsylvania. General Washington spent more time trying to keep the Continental Army intact than looking for a fight. General Washington’s chance came in the Hudson Valley Campaign only because of the incompetence of British General “Gentleman Johnny” Burgoyne. In the war of 1812, the Brits burned Washington, shelled Baltimore and ran us silly.
“We have two companies of Marines running rampant all over the northern half of this island, and three Army regiments pinned down in the southwestern corner, doing nothing. What the hell is going on”? – Gen. John W. Vessey Jr.
“If I had ten divisions of those men, our troubles here would be over very quickly. You have to have men who are moral… and at the same time who are able to utilize their primordial instincts to kill without feeling… without passion… without judgment… without judgment! Because it’s judgment that defeats us.” Kurt, Apocalypse Now.
Sorry, but Hollywoodish wet dreams about the army is simply not true in reality.
“And then I realized they were stronger than we, because they could stand that these were not monsters, these were men… trained cadres. These men who fought with their hearts, who had families, who had children, who were filled with love… but they had the strength… the strength… to do that. “
Don’t miss the point here. The Army, Navy and Marines have taken on a successful theme lately. It is no longer about college, bonuses, travel and the G.I. Bill. They cite simple values such as, “a call to serve” (Navy), strength in self and team (Army), and my favorite, “… those who dedicate themselves to a sense of honor, to a life of courage, and a commitment to something greater than themselves.” (Marines). Now the Air Force needs to fire their present marketing and start over.
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This beats the old “Army of One” and the older “Go Army.” One sounded like a Rambo or Terminator movie; the other like a chant at an Army-Navy football game. After the Navy and Marines came out with their outstanding vids being viewed in movie theaters, the Army naturally followed suit. Good for them.
@BuzzMcTank Well considering how the US is training Afghanis to defend their country, and to push out the taliban, it’s not exactly invading when they want us there.
Go die for your country Mr. TaylorK cos I sure as hell won’t kill somebody in an illegal war. Thats like saying im going to pay this deficit when I didn’t borrow shit… Boohyyaaaa Bitch.
@iamdiaperman arabs are taking over actually, it’s the people who have the highest birthrates, and their religion is spreading faster than any other, so you kind of fail.
i enlisted so i could end arabism: the existence of arabs, which is OK as they will end up doing it themselves. I believe we must recruit more blacks and hispanics into the army as human shields. i sell made in japan guitars in iraq and if they dont buy then its POW POW POW !
The army sucks? im enlisted in the army are you enlisted in any military branch? dont talk shit cause you dont even know what you are talking about go read a pamplet and get educated? how are the marines better? because they dont pay you shit and nothing is guarented? Muscles Are Required Intellegences Not Expected…. you would love to be a marine huh? so dont go off saying the marines are better especially when the marines are a department of the Navy k kid?
way to go , the left wing loonies and the truthers are at it again spewing hate and calling are Marines intruders up in berkley and gerry sandoval from the board are all funkin morons and demagagues su
Cant agrue that. I draft would do this country some good. Great point! There are too many people out there who would rather have someone else defend them and their family’s freedom. Really good point. Draft Anyone. I like that.
Ammodog80, were you one of those looking for the WMD hence the 3 tours to Iraq without any success…… Afghanistan is the real “good”war, Saddam was US puppet for ages like all the other arab shipot dictatures in the region.
Work in business and you will see how much time is wasted on deals, tenders, etc that never materialise, 8/10 is a good return rate so stop whining.
Coward? I dont think so, I have already served my country (not USA) and am willing to do so whenever called upon -freedom isn’t free. USA needs a “peoples defence” and not mercenary or contracted forces. Draft anyone, rich, middleclass, poor, white, black, hispanic, native, blue collar, while collar, craftsman, academic, etc.
What I would really like to see happen is a penalty be impossed of recruits who back out after signing there contract. Nothing that will harm their civilian life at all. but something that would disqualify them from federal service for a period of time or limit what jobs they can do in the military if they eventually choose to join. I dont get a commission so I dont care if a person joins or not. I just dont like my time wasted. And no I have never backed out of a contract (deal).
Hey Coward why dont you pick up a rifle and go to Iraq. I’ve 3 times in four years you loser. Now you are right about not threatning a person and I agree and do believe that my colleage is in or was in jail. However his actions do not represent all of us. Some of us do this job with integrity. Now I do personally feel that any contract you sign of your own free will should be binding. 8/10 times that person comes back to us to join anyway.
Hey slughead,
Non binding means no obligations. you seems to have pretty messed up view of society and the citizens rights and obligations vs the government. Threatning a person is illegal and a crime – your fellow colleague should go to jail. Tell, have you ever back out of a deal?
Recruiter, in my view, is a cover up title for slave trader and supplier of fresh meat for the grinder. Why don’t you pick up a rifle and go to Iraq.
You better be careful she might leave you for a real man. That will be able to protect her! You coward! now go ask her permission to repsond to this…. Puss!
Hey I know that guy. I do recruiting for the Army in houston too. Now what he did was wrong because of the way the rules are set up. Personally if you sign a contract you should honor it. The country alows people to back out without consequence. That is also wrong. If a person fails to honor there contract they should be disqualifed for federal sevice forever. So people think a little more b4 they do things. I’ve never told any1 that and Ive lost 2 recruits in 2 years both 3 months ago
did you even listen to the reporter? she said it is a NON BINDING CONTRACT. Do you understand what non binding means? For god sake if you’re really an officer you should know! The recruiter compares an enlistment to a full scholarship LOL
People that join to get money,and go to college or just want to show off are the ones first to in ,but people who join to serve for there country are the last and die true to there colors’ but if you don’t want to join then dont .but if you do want to join make sure its for the right reasons,not because you want to shoot an m16 it should be becuase you want to help out your country in a time of war like now.
@jackhedger And clearly, you’ve never heard of the United States Marine Corps.
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@DVA3952, agreed, the US can certainly sustain longer than the UK in a protracted global fight. I am just going on what I saw of UK forces in Iraq. Their training, equipment and commitment were excellent. Glad they were on our side. I think they would hold up well against a pretty good cross section of enemies. Likewise, the U.S. Army is better now than ever in its history. Give them a doable mission and it’s as good as done.
@Nanjing03 but in the long run they decided that it wasn’t worth the effort and let us go. British Army is good, not denouncing that but in terms of numbers, technology, and training I think the US Army is better. But the Brits sure have good snipers.
@DVA3952, [Cont.] Further, the Brits trounced us pretty bad on the high seas in both wars. The Revolution was won because European nations allied against GB. The War of 1812 was actually a draw. The Brits fared better in the Great Lakes and Chesapeake Campaigns than America, enough so that the U.S. Army was later restructured with the “Volunteers” providing a “third tier” in the Militia-Volunteers-Regular Army force structure. We did’t do too badly, but we did’t trounce them either.
@DVA3952, this is not “back in the day” anymore. Besides, during the Revolution, the Brits ran our forces all over New England, New York and Pennsylvania. General Washington spent more time trying to keep the Continental Army intact than looking for a fight. General Washington’s chance came in the Hudson Valley Campaign only because of the incompetence of British General “Gentleman Johnny” Burgoyne. In the war of 1812, the Brits burned Washington, shelled Baltimore and ran us silly.
@jackhedger and yet the British lost two wars against the US way back in the day.
@jackhedger the british army suck with respect ahve u seen moder warfare 2 thats not even compared of what our soldiers do
“Nothing stronger than a US soldier” What a joker, clearly not heard of the british!!
“We have two companies of Marines running rampant all over the northern half of this island, and three Army regiments pinned down in the southwestern corner, doing nothing. What the hell is going on”? – Gen. John W. Vessey Jr.
“If I had ten divisions of those men, our troubles here would be over very quickly. You have to have men who are moral… and at the same time who are able to utilize their primordial instincts to kill without feeling… without passion… without judgment… without judgment! Because it’s judgment that defeats us.” Kurt, Apocalypse Now.
Sorry, but Hollywoodish wet dreams about the army is simply not true in reality.
“And then I realized they were stronger than we, because they could stand that these were not monsters, these were men… trained cadres. These men who fought with their hearts, who had families, who had children, who were filled with love… but they had the strength… the strength… to do that. “
go on americe crush the communists! long live Scandinavia and USA
Don’t miss the point here. The Army, Navy and Marines have taken on a successful theme lately. It is no longer about college, bonuses, travel and the G.I. Bill. They cite simple values such as, “a call to serve” (Navy), strength in self and team (Army), and my favorite, “… those who dedicate themselves to a sense of honor, to a life of courage, and a commitment to something greater than themselves.” (Marines). Now the Air Force needs to fire their present marketing and start over.
* Внимание * Ваш Родина (Россия) нуждается в вас в бою. Вы будете взял на 1400 часов на завтра, если вы не хотите воевать вам будет осуществляться России 5 выстрелов через Ваше сердце.
army ads only show how your parents will be pround and how you will feel good about yourself….but marine ads shows how u will get into the shit
@armykid567 Damn strait bro!
This beats the old “Army of One” and the older “Go Army.” One sounded like a Rambo or Terminator movie; the other like a chant at an Army-Navy football game. After the Navy and Marines came out with their outstanding vids being viewed in movie theaters, the Army naturally followed suit. Good for them.
@HawkXe at least we had a empire cuz we are good soldiers.
@callofdutyguy9 dude they are brits just ignore them, they lost their shitty empire so they are super pissed about it.
USA FTW
if any brits or just about anybody that comes along and talks bull shit about the US Army or the US country in general, bash them until they leave,
i can understand it.. but cant speak it.. im 17
i wanna ask something.. if i dont speak english i cant be recruited?
@BuzzMcTank Well considering how the US is training Afghanis to defend their country, and to push out the taliban, it’s not exactly invading when they want us there.
@iamdiaperman …. you sound like a great meat shield…
Go die for your country Mr. TaylorK cos I sure as hell won’t kill somebody in an illegal war. Thats like saying im going to pay this deficit when I didn’t borrow shit… Boohyyaaaa Bitch.
@TaylorK18 sound like you need an attitude adjustment soldier!
looks like kidnapping to me
@iamdiaperman arabs are taking over actually, it’s the people who have the highest birthrates, and their religion is spreading faster than any other, so you kind of fail.
i enlisted so i could end arabism: the existence of arabs, which is OK as they will end up doing it themselves. I believe we must recruit more blacks and hispanics into the army as human shields. i sell made in japan guitars in iraq and if they dont buy then its POW POW POW !
i worked with a guy that went awol during basic training he didnt like taking orders so he took off lol they never punished him for it
The army sucks? im enlisted in the army are you enlisted in any military branch? dont talk shit cause you dont even know what you are talking about go read a pamplet and get educated? how are the marines better? because they dont pay you shit and nothing is guarented? Muscles Are Required Intellegences Not Expected…. you would love to be a marine huh? so dont go off saying the marines are better especially when the marines are a department of the Navy k kid?
i can tell that u both (willie & kojach) r not military recruiters. just look up us marine recruiters and u will see the same thing.
Depends on where you go. Marines is AU, Army is AWOL.
its partially because army recruiters have quotas and marine recruiters dont
and partially cause the army sucks and marines dont
dam its weird how shit like this always happens with the army
but not with the marines
it’s not awol it’s UA
way to go , the left wing loonies and the truthers are at it again spewing hate and calling are Marines intruders up in berkley and gerry sandoval from the board are all funkin morons and demagagues su
Best thing to do- dont join the group of organized killers, dont kill for the benifit of the few rich
Cant agrue that. I draft would do this country some good. Great point! There are too many people out there who would rather have someone else defend them and their family’s freedom. Really good point. Draft Anyone. I like that.
Ammodog80, were you one of those looking for the WMD hence the 3 tours to Iraq without any success…… Afghanistan is the real “good”war, Saddam was US puppet for ages like all the other arab shipot dictatures in the region.
Work in business and you will see how much time is wasted on deals, tenders, etc that never materialise, 8/10 is a good return rate so stop whining.
Coward? I dont think so, I have already served my country (not USA) and am willing to do so whenever called upon -freedom isn’t free. USA needs a “peoples defence” and not mercenary or contracted forces. Draft anyone, rich, middleclass, poor, white, black, hispanic, native, blue collar, while collar, craftsman, academic, etc.
What I would really like to see happen is a penalty be impossed of recruits who back out after signing there contract. Nothing that will harm their civilian life at all. but something that would disqualify them from federal service for a period of time or limit what jobs they can do in the military if they eventually choose to join. I dont get a commission so I dont care if a person joins or not. I just dont like my time wasted. And no I have never backed out of a contract (deal).
Hey Coward why dont you pick up a rifle and go to Iraq. I’ve 3 times in four years you loser. Now you are right about not threatning a person and I agree and do believe that my colleage is in or was in jail. However his actions do not represent all of us. Some of us do this job with integrity. Now I do personally feel that any contract you sign of your own free will should be binding. 8/10 times that person comes back to us to join anyway.
Hey slughead,
Non binding means no obligations. you seems to have pretty messed up view of society and the citizens rights and obligations vs the government. Threatning a person is illegal and a crime – your fellow colleague should go to jail. Tell, have you ever back out of a deal?
Recruiter, in my view, is a cover up title for slave trader and supplier of fresh meat for the grinder. Why don’t you pick up a rifle and go to Iraq.
You better be careful she might leave you for a real man. That will be able to protect her! You coward! now go ask her permission to repsond to this…. Puss!
Hey I know that guy. I do recruiting for the Army in houston too. Now what he did was wrong because of the way the rules are set up. Personally if you sign a contract you should honor it. The country alows people to back out without consequence. That is also wrong. If a person fails to honor there contract they should be disqualifed for federal sevice forever. So people think a little more b4 they do things. I’ve never told any1 that and Ive lost 2 recruits in 2 years both 3 months ago
did you even listen to the reporter? she said it is a NON BINDING CONTRACT. Do you understand what non binding means? For god sake if you’re really an officer you should know! The recruiter compares an enlistment to a full scholarship LOL
People that join to get money,and go to college or just want to show off are the ones first to in ,but people who join to serve for there country are the last and die true to there colors’ but if you don’t want to join then dont .but if you do want to join make sure its for the right reasons,not because you want to shoot an m16 it should be becuase you want to help out your country in a time of war like now.